After all these years of playing, it's clear to me that a major mistake was made in the design and execution of this wonderful game. I say wonderful without sarcasm because this game truly is amazing, and I wouldn’t have played it for so long if it sucked. However, a serious blunder was made and that would be the creation of the Rogue class. In all due respect; what the heck were you thinking? To make a class that can go invisible, dish out epic amounts of damage, prevent their victim from attacking back, giving them a comical amount of melee avoidance, and providing them a means to purge all dots and grant them a 90% resist all ability…. to me means the head of the department of game play design has the brains of a sea urchin. Also, I feel I wouldn’t be doing my job if I didn’t at least mention a Rogues uncanny ability to get out of just about any fight scot free. What happened there? What I can only assume happened is the following: Blizzard created the rouge class assuming it was balanced and fair among all the other classes. People realized how powerful a class that can go invisible, dish out epic amounts of damage, prevent their victim from attacking back, with a comical amount of melee avoidance, and having a means to purge all dots and grant them a 90% resist all ability can truly be. So, literally over half of the World of Warcraft players rolled one and play them to this day. And who can blame them, it is apparent to anyone who plays the game for pvp that this is the superior class by far, it’s only human nature to want to win. This was the epic blunder because now the majority of players are Rogues, which puts Blizzard in a tough spot for making changes that have to deal with such a large number of subscribers. What happens next is obvious, Blizzard eventually realizes that the Rogue class was not such a good idea but can’t do anything about it because their consumer base, the majority of their revenue is generated by rouges. I feel this was unexpected and caught them by surprise. So here we are. We spend our whole leveling playing time looking over our shoulders not for warlocks or hunters but for Rogue. We spec our characters and plan our gear around Rogues. We gem and enchant with Rogues in mind. And if you don’t believe me, then give us a 41 point talent which also costs 20 points that simply lets us see all stealth Rogues and observe how many people spec for it. How about a helmet that has 1 armor and no stats, give you -10% to run speed, and -10 to all resistances but makes you immune to stun? See how many pvpers would wear that. I would do either and heck, I’m so frustrated that I would probably sacrifice more. So let me see a show a hands, how many people would play on a realm that had no Rogues? Or what would you give up to see stealth Rogues or be immune to stunlock? How many people moved off a pvp server when the burning crusade came out, just to avoid being ganked by Rogues when leveling? How many people use to love pvp but stopped because they were sick of Rogues killing them with such ease? Or how about this, how many people re-rolled Rogue because of they were sick of the abuse they have taken from them? (I did, made it to 40 and stopped) How many people agree with me that Blizzard made a mistake and realizes it?[ It seems to me that rogues are just a weaker version of feral druids. in pvp. I never last more than a couple seconds out of stealth even with CloS and Evasion popped. This is my 2nd 80 rogue I also have one on SH Eu server with pvp gear on him. But even with over 750 resi my other rogue gets squished almost instantly. But alteast in the passed rogues could nuke 1 or 2 people down before we died. Now it seems the best strategy for rogues in pvp is to stay stealthed and far enough away that we dont get hit by aoes while near a large group of allies and occasionally stealing someone elses kill. then running off and restealthing. Is this WORKING AS INTENDED? How about how vanish still doesnt work, and now stealth doesnt work a lot of the times. I get casters hitting me in stealth when im still 10-20 yds away. How they see me is a mystery to me, I thought I was suppose to be stealthed. More importantly blizzard, are rogues suppose to Honor grinding for every other class? Like I said in another post, I have been a loyal blizzard customer for over a decade now. I have bought every game (besides the vikings game) blizzard has ever made multiple times, I have made multiple accounts on WoW alone and played since 2 weeks after vanillas launch. But blizzard mark my words, If you keep making the game so every class can be top dps, but keep armor class systems and range req on melee weapons then I am never buying your products again. Im sick of seeing survivability classes equalling my dps, or being able to nuke me as fast as them. If a pally can kill me b4 hammer of justice is done, but I need to stun them 3 times just to get them to use bubble or LoH, then why dont I have LoH, or a bubble? OR PLATE? or healing spells? or an aura that heals me for my damage, Or why cant I hit someone with daggers from 20 yds away? YEAH rogues are suppose to out dps everyone, because we have to melee in leather. Or may be ARP shouldnt effect us at all. Or a boost to dodge. You seemed to make or dps barely viable. Some how feral cats get better stealth than we do, better burst dps in pvp yet they have a tank form, and caster form, tons of cds to stay alive etc. Where is the future of rogues blizzard, cause if its like this for 1 more month I am giving up on you. I have been of the opinion that Blizz are sell outs for a while now, you are just proving it more and more. Thanks for the years of good games, but I think your time is done. Time to find a new company that still cares about the game play and less about casuals. After all these years of playing, it's clear to me that a major mistake was made in the design and execution of this wonderful game. I say wonderful without sarcasm because this game truly is amazing, and I wouldn’t have played it for so long if it sucked. However, a serious blunder was made and that would be the creation of the Rogue class. In all due respect; what the heck were you thinking? To make a class that can go invisible, dish out epic amounts of damage, prevent their victim from attacking back, giving them a comical amount of melee avoidance, and providing them a means to purge all dots and grant them a 90% resist all ability…. to me means the head of the department of game play design has the brains of a sea urchin. Also, I feel I wouldn’t be doing my job if I didn’t at least mention a Rogues uncanny ability to get out of just about any fight scot free. What happened there? What I can only assume happened is the following: Blizzard created the rouge class assuming it was balanced and fair among all the other classes. People realized how powerful a class that can go invisible, dish out epic amounts of damage, prevent their victim from attacking back, with a comical amount of melee avoidance, and having a means to purge all dots and grant them a 90% resist all ability can truly be. So, literally over half of the World of Warcraft players rolled one and play them to this day. And who can blame them, it is apparent to anyone who plays the game for pvp that this is the superior class by far, it’s only human nature to want to win. This was the epic blunder because now the majority of players are Rogues, which puts Blizzard in a tough spot for making changes that have to deal with such a large number of subscribers. What happens next is obvious, Blizzard eventually realizes that the Rogue class was not such a good idea but can’t do anything about it because their consumer base, the majority of their revenue is generated by rouges. I feel this was unexpected and caught them by surprise. So here we are. We spend our whole leveling playing time looking over our shoulders not for warlocks or hunters but for Rogue. We spec our characters and plan our gear around Rogues. We gem and enchant with Rogues in mind. And if you don’t believe me, then give us a 41 point talent which also costs 20 points that simply lets us see all stealth Rogues and observe how many people spec for it. How about a helmet that has 1 armor and no stats, give you -10% to run speed, and -10 to all resistances but makes you immune to stun? See how many pvpers would wear that. I would do either and heck, I’m so frustrated that I would probably sacrifice more. So let me see a show a hands, how many people would play on a realm that had no Rogues? Or what would you give up to see stealth Rogues or be immune to stunlock? How many people moved off a pvp server when the burning crusade came out, just to avoid being ganked by Rogues when leveling? How many people use to love pvp but stopped because they were sick of Rogues killing them with such ease? Or how about this, how many people re-rolled Rogue because of they were sick of the abuse they have taken from them? (I did, made it to 40 and stopped) How many people agree with me that Blizzard made a mistake and realizes it?

Lol.

Roaches, what's punctuation?

ugh, i tried to read that and it made my eyes hurt, maybe later

woah bro

these are the kinds of posts people who have 17k health 0 resilience no pvp trinket and have no fuckin clue how to pvp at all come from

This is outrageous. Rogues r so bad.

This is outrageous. Rogues r so bad. need mace stun ar prep back plz

Get ganked and nerd rage much? Chill bro. when rogues 1st game out they were a joke 1 dot on a rogue and thats it.gg your caught. a dot turned a rogue into a melee clothie pretty much.

rogues have never been buffed..EVER. rogues have been BALANCED. big difference there. remember when NE hunters could aimedshot while shadowmelded? well i do..and lets not even talk about warriors and warlocks vs a rogue back in the day. If it wasnt for rogues the game would have never progressed past Hakkar..and the Arena would have never left Beta..so dont hate on a rogue..hug a rogue Gengar..hug a rogue.

I wish the whole server had one neck...and i had a garotte around it. ~Drak, Darkspearian Legend (RET)

You got trolled, bro.

LOL blizzard is just in for the money now, they dont care much about what they do with the game as long as they can satisfy the majority of the player base which is 90% casuals. Just take a look at the price for transfering a character, recustomize your toon or change ur race, ITS OUTRAGEOUS a lot of games cost that much........their success made them blind.

dude no wai..that wall of text up there is for real. i mean i didnt read it all but... fuck man..i got trolled.

How's that freshman college writing course going for ya?

Jeez dude.. add some paragraphs and punctuation. All I see is a wall of green.

Put all that money your parents are spending for your college education to good work

<3 you

im a rogue

i hate your face...and neater too.

i read the entire thing, and the first third of it gets repeated at the end, and the middle section is completely contradictory to the first/third section, looks like it was by someone completely different

overall didnt really make a lot of sense

You don't mean that.

Fuck rogues